| Q. | Jehovah's Witnesses, Would you follow the WBTS the way the Peoples Temple disciples followed Jim Jones? | Related Search: Religion & Spirituality | | | FYI, James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 death of more than 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the deaths of nine other people at a nearby airstrip and in Georgetown, Guyana.
Jones was born in Indiana and started the Temple in that state in the 1950s. Jones and the Temple later moved to California, and both gained notoriety with the move of the Temple's headquarters to San Francisco in the mid-1970s.
The greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001, the tragedy at Guyana also ranks among the largest mass suicides in history. One of those who died at the nearby airstrip was Leo Ryan, who became the only Congressman murdered in the line of duty in the history of the United States.
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I know that most of you would allow your children to suffer and die in need of a blood transfusion, but would you force them to drink the poison as well as the Jones disciples did.
Is micah a typical representation of the JWs and their demonstration of Christ's love?
Thank you Debbi, the relatives of the highly educated people of the Peoples Temple will be happy to know you believe that all JWs are of higher intelligence levels and therefore not as dumb as lawyers, teachers, etc. from that rabble.
| | A. | If the WTS told them the way into heaven was to drink poison Kool-Aid, then SOME of the would actually do it. But I would guess the number would be small -- probably between 10 and 15 percent only. | | | |
| Q. | what are some cool places to hang out in the san grabriel area? | Related Search: Other - United States | | | My roommate and I moved to San Gabriel, CA from San Francisco about 2 months ago. We are both 22 year old females and were wondering what cool hangouts are in the area....like in neighboring cities of Alhambra, Temple City, Arcadia, Monterey Park, San Marino etc. We're both Asian and were wondering if there were any particular spots with sizeable Asian crowds. It doesn't have to be bars or anything...just a place where people go to chill and have fun...please answer if you live in the area. Thanks a lot!
| | A. | There are none. Hopefully, you speak Chinese. | | | |
| Q. | Is it really hard for the Chinese haters coming out say so ? | Related Search: Olympics | | | This Tibetan crap is simply a western racial hatred against the Chinese people. The sinister of it is that they even dare not come out say so, but hide behind the mask" Freedom for Tibet"
China at least had built 6 lama temples in past 5 years in Tibet.
Any one of Tibetan supporters would come out urging Pelosi buid one lama temple in San Francisco ?
| | A. | Well, I can't comment on Chinese haters. Because I am NOT one of them .
But Nancy Pelosi is the biggest Hypocrites in the U.S. Congress. She is all talk. I hope I can make a difference in the next elections to get her out of the Office. | | | |
| Q. | Is the ReV Jim Jones another example of a leftist Socialist mass murderer? | Related Search: Politics | | | On November 18, 1978 912 followers of American cult leader Jim Jones ("Peoples Temple") died in a remote South American jungle compound called "Jonestown" in British Guyana. Some members were shot, others were forced to drink poison, but most willingly participated in what Jones said was an act of "revolutionary suicide."
Jim Jones began his ministry in 1953 as an independent minister in Indianapolis, but was later ordained in 1964 by the Disciples of Christ. By the end of 1971 he had moved his congregation to California eventually establishing two churches there. His main church remained in San Francisco, but a second was also opened in Los Angeles. The Peoples Temple peaked during the 70s to include perhaps as many as 8,000 members. Though racially diverse, most of Jones followers were African Americans.
Jim Jones was once a popular community activist in San Francisco who contributed cash and coordinated volunteers to support Democratic causes and political leaders.
Mass murder is a trademark of the left ------agree or disagree?
Sorry Will you have been fooled by the left into believing Hitler was on the right --------he was not and if you email me i will prove this fact to you
Ok Beren lets say for the sake of argument that Hitler was on the right and a conservative . Does that explain the mass murders committed by Stalin, Mao, Castro, The Khmer Rouge , Jim Jones ? -------and you call me the fool
Jim Jones stated in an NBC interview "that someone doenst like socialsim"
Notes:
"Jonestown Suicides Shocked World" Associated Press, March 27, 1997
"Jones Captivated S.F.'s Liberal Elite" San Francisco Chronicle, November 12, 1998
"Affidavit of Deborah Layton Blakey" June 15, 1978
| | A. | It's a very good question which ask an another.
Do American allow too more freedom for SECTS?
In fact you remember that initially States were created by poeple escaping repression religious repression like revocation de l'Edit de Nantes by Louis 14 and by protestant from Mayflower.
Later christian bothered by the hard Terror immigrate to the States and sure you laws are very large about freedom of religion.
Sure it's on one side a good fact but on the other it allows naughty gouru to dominate weak poeple .
DO you have to limitate the power of sects or control them more?
Here they face bad the French taxe office as they get money on poor sheep.
Sorry about Hitler you do remember the meaning of NAZI National SOCIALIST always a socialism opposed to the other current of thoughts INTERNATIONAL SOCIALIST.
They are all same brend of mass murderers and the Internationalist use Hitler as goat escape to hide their own crimes.
At least Lenin 30 Millions,Stalin the winner the best 40 millions Hitler
35 millions and our looser Trotsky 20 to 25 millions.
At this score we must not fight for 5 millions. | | | |
| Q. | Do you understand the connection between Obama and Kool-Aid? | Related Search: Elections | | | Many people are wrongfully assuming the kool-aid remark is a racist remark. Folks are saying that it must be because African Americans drink kool-aid. (I, for one, have *never* heard that link!)
Google Jim Jones and Massacre. Then you will understand the reference to kool-aid.
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"Jim Jones began his ministry in 1953 as an independent minister in Indianapolis, but was later ordained in 1964 by the Disciples of Christ. The Peoples Temple peaked during the 70s to include perhaps as many as 8,000 members. Though racially diverse, most of Jones followers were African Americans.
"Jim Jones was once a popular community activist in San Francisco who contributed cash and coordinated volunteers to support both causes and political leaders.
"He could turn out thousands for almost any event or effort. During the 70s he appeared with many prominent politicians including then State Assemblyman Willie Brown. In 1976 Mayor George Moscone gave Jones a seat on the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission. Governor Jerry Brown was even seen attending services at the Peoples Temple.
(Sound like anyone you know yet?)
One generation's Jim Jones is another generation's Obama!
BTW -- Jim Jones claimed to be a Christian, too.
| | A. | I remember that well. It was a sad day when the news hit prime time that evening! It was compared to Hitler and Lenin along with other inspirational, motivational, idealistic speakers who spoke of change and a better way.
I am amazed to this day that educated, rational individuals can be swooned off their feet by a "charmed" speaker. It's a gift in some respects, but it's dangerous too. People with this ability can somehow convince others that all their dreams will come true, even without even suggesting it. There is a useful place in society for people with this gift, but it's not politics or government. In those two capacities, it always ends in disaster. The followers "wake up" for lack of a better term, and see that they've been fooled by an idealistic utopian dream that couldn't possibly work in the real world.
Often, they wake up after it's too late, or in some cases, like with Jonestown, they are taken down before they get a clue.
Does this remind me of the rise to stardom of a certain candidate for president? Does this remind me of people, caught up in the utopian dream to the point that it's impossible to have a rational conversation with them? It's like the old bumper sticker about Jesus.
"My candidate said it, I believe it, that settles it!" Sigh...
McCain/Palin for a free America | | | |
| Q. | LGBT: Harvey Milk and Jim Jones? | Related Search: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgendered | | | Good morning everyone! So last night I was watching a show called "Escaped" and it featured a family that escaped from Jonestown. I had heard of Jonestown, knew a little about it, but decided to dig a little deeper.
So as I'm reading, I find that Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple Agricultural Project was pretty much based in communism/socialism. Well that and Jim Jones turned into a complete whackadoo. I even read that he was so well received by high ranking politicians that he was appointed Chairman of the Housing Authority in San Francisco by Mayor George Moscone (after he was a avid supporter of Moscone's campaign). Of course Moscone immediately led me to the think of Harvey Milk. And I found this:
One day later, on Sunday February 19, 1978, Harvey Milk wrote a letter of support for the Peoples Temple to President Jimmy Carter. Milk wrote that Jones was known "as a man of the highest character". Regarding defecting Temple members pressing for an investigation of the Peoples Temple, Milk wrote "they are attempting to damage Rev. Jones' reputation" with "apparent bold-faced lies".
This to me was a head scratcher. Communism as a whole has completely condemned homosexuality. There are some thoughts that homosexuality was accepted in socialist societies, but most communist societies actually criminalize homosexuality. It really made me wonder why when Harvey Milk fought so hard for LGBT rights that he would support Jim Jones. Thoughts anyone?
Sorry I know this is deep stuff on a Tuesday morning. XOXOXO to you all!
| | A. | They didn't know it was a dangerous cult at the time. The message the People's Temple put forward was one of unity in everyone, of all races and orientations, which many well-minded people (who weren't aware of the fact that Jim Jones was batshit crazy) admired. They didn't exactly put "Oh by the way we are a destructive cult" in their pamphlets, is what I'm trying to say, they put "We can all be joined in love and peace" in their pamphlets.
Jim Jone's craziness had a communistic base, but a kibbutz has a communistic base too and that doesn't mean it has much to do with Soviet Russia. | | | |
| Q. | insight on community and school please? | Related Search: Higher Education (University ) | | | i'm going back to college in the winter and i've apllied to several schools, however, my first choice is Temple University. i'm from the San Francisco Bay Area, but a couple years ago, i visited Philly and was very impressed by the varity of cultures there, and the passion of the people about the community they live in. grassroots activism is big there too i noticed. i'm looking to become a high school teacher/basketball coach. can anyone give me more insight on Philly in general and Temple in particular?
| | A. | I love love love Philly. It's like New York...just smaller. It's really historic, which is nice (I hate all those new modern buildings you see cropping up); there are lots of amazing museums; for a more funky atmosphere you can go down to South Street; the murals and public art around the city are AMAZING. I'm sure the grassroots community is huge, because the city is mostly democrats (about 75%!)...and, actually, now that I looked it up, it's a candidate for a global city--see description of what that is here: [Link]
As far as Temple goes...
Barely anyone lives in frat or sorority houses...which I think is nice, because the greek system tends to create boundaries--an 'us' vs. 'them' thing, which is not conducive to bonding with your classmates. There's lots of involvement in politics and community service. It is a pretty diverse community. | | | |
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